I used to post and visit very regularly an online community dedicated to Jane Austen. www.pemberley.com Discussion was rampan but the moderator roles there were very strict about the guidelines re: civility and sitetiquette (as made sense for a site dedicated to Austen). Anyhow, the site has dedicated pages including one for "ramblings" anything that doesn't fit anywhere else. if someone posts on the wrong page a moderator asks them to repost and deletes. You could provide for a "ramblings" forum in addition to lists, weblists and rate local. perhaps a lot easier to do is not feature lists that violate rules on the front page. let people find them on their own without RIA endorsement? peace
I already suggested a LONG time ago to create a place for ramblings. A place where no helpfuls were allowed and no comment totals would increase. A free forum of whatever structure users see fit to make. The weblists however should have a structure and it should be enforced. At least in the realm of common sense. I am not opposed to the commentary most of the time. Only the method by which it is being created. RIA should not become just another online forum. And this idea of slippery slopes with regard to handling weblists doesn't fly. Any site, no matter how bog or small must exert control over the content. Users are not free to just act any way they want. Be it multiple IDs or posting various language. The same should apply to list creation. Everything else is just making excuses. especially when one considers just how asinine (using common sense) many of those lists are. That doesn't even count the fact there are duplicates. The easiest method to deal with weblists is to first enforce the rules and second to give a place where such things can be done but no helpfuls are given. The other choice is simple... Take away the helpfuls option on weblists. And don't allow comments there to increase a users total. I am sure if such a thing is tested the result would be a dramatic drop-off of comments placed on those lists. Many RIA users post garbage on those lists because it gives them an outlet for enormous helpfuls. With the buddy chat and sharing of life experiences. I think it is crap. Rememeber that the buttons are called helpful and unhelpful. I defy anyone to explain in a logical manner how answering the "ever been to jail" question on the Have you ever... list is helpful. Few of those type lists provide anything useful or even remotely helpful but all that nonsense is rewarded. My VERY structured counters and other things such as movie comments are all but ignored. If anything the criticism receive loads of unhelpfuls. Am I bitter? No, backlash is expected and I am fully capable of playing the game to get helpfuls if that were my goal. It is an issue because it is at the very heart of why such things are so popular. Take away the chance to give and receive helpfuls and see how popular weblists are. I dare you. Heh.
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I used to post and visit very regularly an online community dedicated to Jane Austen. www.pemberley.com
ReplyDeleteDiscussion was rampan but the moderator roles there were very strict about the guidelines re: civility and sitetiquette (as made sense for a site dedicated to Austen). Anyhow, the site has dedicated pages including one for "ramblings" anything that doesn't fit anywhere else. if someone posts on the wrong page a moderator asks them to repost and deletes. You could provide for a "ramblings" forum in addition to lists, weblists and rate local. perhaps a lot easier to do is not feature lists that violate rules on the front page. let people find them on their own without RIA endorsement? peace
I already suggested a LONG time ago to create a place for ramblings. A place where no helpfuls were allowed and no comment totals would increase. A free forum of whatever structure users see fit to make. The weblists however should have a structure and it should be enforced. At least in the realm of common sense. I am not opposed to the commentary most of the time. Only the method by which it is being created. RIA should not become just another online forum. And this idea of slippery slopes with regard to handling weblists doesn't fly. Any site, no matter how bog or small must exert control over the content. Users are not free to just act any way they want. Be it multiple IDs or posting various language. The same should apply to list creation. Everything else is just making excuses. especially when one considers just how asinine (using common sense) many of those lists are. That doesn't even count the fact there are duplicates. The easiest method to deal with weblists is to first enforce the rules and second to give a place where such things can be done but no helpfuls are given. The other choice is simple... Take away the helpfuls option on weblists. And don't allow comments there to increase a users total. I am sure if such a thing is tested the result would be a dramatic drop-off of comments placed on those lists. Many RIA users post garbage on those lists because it gives them an outlet for enormous helpfuls. With the buddy chat and sharing of life experiences. I think it is crap. Rememeber that the buttons are called helpful and unhelpful. I defy anyone to explain in a logical manner how answering the "ever been to jail" question on the Have you ever... list is helpful. Few of those type lists provide anything useful or even remotely helpful but all that nonsense is rewarded. My VERY structured counters and other things such as movie comments are all but ignored. If anything the criticism receive loads of unhelpfuls. Am I bitter? No, backlash is expected and I am fully capable of playing the game to get helpfuls if that were my goal. It is an issue because it is at the very heart of why such things are so popular. Take away the chance to give and receive helpfuls and see how popular weblists are. I dare you. Heh.
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